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John-117 (The Master Chief) ([personal profile] prettycoolguy) wrote in [community profile] insertmeathere2009-10-22 10:36 pm
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The "Ask Characters Questions" Meme!

Okay guys, this is pretty simple but should be fun, and give us all something to do as we wait for things to happen as plot to progresses.

Post your character, and people can ask them things ICly or OOCly, as themselves or as their characters.

For example, "Hey Chief, what do you think of [x]?" or "Hey Zita, what does Chief think of [x]?"

Characters do not strictly have to answer honestly, but it's more fun (and more funny) if you make them!

Other than that, go nuts and have fun!
imperious_lex: (Anti-Hero)

[personal profile] imperious_lex 2009-10-23 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
Except I'm not an extremist. if anything, you and your so called "superheroes" are.

You obey no laws, you're answerable to no one, and anyone who dares to disagree with you is a "villain."

Worst of all, you make people dependent on you. You want them to look to you always save them from danger. I intend to give humanity the tools to save themselves, so that they can lean on each other, and won't have to wait for some idiot in a gaudy costume to come and rescue them.

And you all stand in the way because you know that if I succeed, they won't need you. And you can't stand to be needless, useless, worthless, can you?

[identity profile] so-pregnable.livejournal.com 2009-10-23 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, we're the ones that slap on ugly costumes in gaudy colors and warm up our deathrays to try to get paid money not to nuke a country off the map. We're the ones that hurt innocent people because we're greedy or just because we feel like it.

The average supervillain is some crazy scientist that screwed up their own experiment and gave themselves powers, or took a chemical dip, or messed with dark magic, or are from another planet and think Earth's ripe for the conquering, and sometimes? They're even someone with no powers at all that's just really freakin' smart and uses what they've got for all the wrong reasons.

We don't make people dependent on us. They do. People like you do. Because if all of you were gone, if all of you were in jail, if we could make sure none of you could hurt another person again, we could chill out on the beach sipping Mai Tais, living calm lives where we don't have to fight a giant robot on a rampage on the way to school or work. We could use our powers to build houses, stop fires, help during natural disasters, and for the smart guys, use their brains to build technology, to cure diseases, and help people help themselves--like we already DO, but have to only do part-time because we're too busy fighting the next crackpot in green and purple that thinks it's a good idea to build neutron beam gauntlets to knock over a bank.

I've heard this argument from my world's Lex Luthor a million times, just like I've heard him argue that if Superman was out of the way he could help the world, but you know what? If he would just shut the fuck up and go cure cancer while Kal flew off to stop a tidal wave somewhere, rather him trying to kill Kal, people would be a lot better off, and both would get to help more.

And you know what? I've seen the fucking future, in the Legion's time, and they DO get there. Most of the Legionnaires just have the same powers everyone on their planet has, and they have a legal mandate to do what they do, and actually got recruited by the government for it, so they're part of the law, like cops. There's no vigilantes anymore--they don't need us, because of the people like us in our time that made it all freakin' possible. And even before the Legion showed up, even before there were any superheroes again--because before the Legion there weren't any--they STILL had a jail full of criminals and villains wreaking havoc, because heroes need villains to exist, but villains are perfectly a-okay with existing on their own.

So shut up with the stupid argument that we make people dependent on us. Villains do, because if they'd just stop hurting people for stupid, selfish reasons and flinging cops and army guys around like rag dolls so we had to either watch people die or step in, we wouldn't get tortured on alien planets, or have dead girlfriends, or get brainwashed into nearly killing out friends, and we could make sure people could take care of themselves so they never needed any of us again.
imperious_lex: (What I am trying to tell you is...)

[personal profile] imperious_lex 2009-10-23 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
Bullshit. And you know it.

I really don't see much of a difference between so called "superheroes" and "supervillains". Never have. You all just jackasses with superpowers who dress in outlandish costumes and do whatever the fuck you feel like doing, laws be damned. Only you heroes are far more pretentious about it.

All of you, all of your games, nothing but a massive Stand Alone Complex.

You don't give a rats ass what people what, or what they need. You just get a nice little high by being a savior or the person who dooms them.

I have singlehandedly lifted entire third world nations out of poverty. Has your Superman ever done that? I've caused crime rates to drop in half by opening up new plants and employing neighborhoods. What has Batman done lately?

You want to know why people build death rays? Because military application is where all the big money is. No one else can afford to do that kind of research. Saving lives is expensive; it's far harder to make something that's reasonably safe for everyone, hence why medical and commercial applications come later. But if you're denied that first step, because it disagrees with your sensibilities, then you derail the whole process.

If you had it your way, we would've never developed the nuclear bomb, and thus we wouldn't have invented the nuclear power plants that keep society up and running, we wouldn't have chemotherapy and radiation cancer treatments, and we wouldn't be on the verge of completely clean nuclear power like we are now.

Next time you destroy a death ray, think about all the people whose lives won't be better off twenty, thirty, or forty years from now.

[identity profile] so-pregnable.livejournal.com 2009-10-23 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
You're a fucking moron. You're a genius, but you're also a fucking moron.

People don't build deathrays to save lives. If they did, they wouldn't say "Give me fifty billion dollars so I can go buy my own private island near Tahiti or I'll blow up Metropolis."

What has Batman done lately? You wanna compare the crime rate in Gotham now and compare it to what it was before he showed up? What have we done lately? Made sure the world still exists because megalomaniacs don't care what happens to it or the people on it as long as they get what they want, and without us in the way, they'd just do it. Made sure the world wasn't enslaved by aliens, and that the sun wasn't extinguished. Something, Luthor, for all his genius, couldn't figure out how to do--it was something someone died to do.

I don't care about nuclear bombs if they're not being used on innocent people. I don't care about politics if people aren't massacring little kids for being the wrong ethnic group. I care about making people safe, because yeah, it does feel good, but it also hurts when they die, because even if I don't like people sometimes, it's RIGHT that they're not torched by some nutcase for being on the wrong street at the wrong time when some asshole tries to knock over a bank with a death beam.

As for pulling countries out of poverty, that's great. Really, that is. I wish I had more time to do that kinda stuff. But we're all a little too busy making sure the world still EXISTS at the end of every week.

The next time I destroy a death ray, what I'm going to think about is the fact that I'm five years old. I'm five freakin' years old. Because I'm gonna go back home and destroy the tower that's going to destroy whole worlds if it's not blown up, because a Luthor thinks everyone in whole worlds have no right to exist. A giant horrible world-eating death monster from beyond the edges of time ate up a bunch of worlds and a Luthor's decided he has the right to cause whole worlds to live and die to get the world he wants to live in, that people on worlds and worlds deserve to die when they weren't the ones that destroyed his world.

Somehow I'm five and I know it's wrong to destroy whole worlds.

That's what I'm going to think about the next time I destroy a death machine. Right before it kills me. And now I know I'm coming back, somehow, but if I hadn't gotten pulled here? I wouldn't have known and I'd have done it anyway, if it meant the world could go on. Even though dying even temporarily scares the crap out of me anyway.

But I guess I should be thinking, instead, about all the people whose lives won't be better of twenty, thirty, or forty years from now--oh wait, if I don't do it, they'll all be dead.
imperious_lex: (Serious)

[personal profile] imperious_lex 2009-10-23 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
And again, in all of that, you are missing the fucking point... but I suppose that's what I get for dealing with a five year old.

[identity profile] so-pregnable.livejournal.com 2009-10-23 10:02 am (UTC)(link)
No, you're missing the point.

We would LOVE to be able to not be needed. We would love to be able to give people the kinda tech they need to take out supervillains on their own.

But 1) Everytime that happens, the government uses it to hurt us when we're still in the middle of fighting the bad guys (I mean, the least they could do is use it on the villains FIRST, come on)

And 2) we're too busy fighting bad guys for our genius people to help the other non-hero genius people come up with all the fixes everyone needs.

And for all that people like you go on about how we make it so normal people have to wait on people in gaudy costumes to save them, why the hell then are the normal people creating people in gaudy costumes? The US government created me, moron. Normal, non-powered people created me. Another mook in tights.

My world's Lex Luthor created me.

The only thing you could actually say that'd make me not think you're an idiot, is that you wouldn't be stupid enough to "give humanity the tools to save themselves" by creating another superhuman.
imperious_lex: (Oh Really?)

[personal profile] imperious_lex 2009-10-23 10:20 am (UTC)(link)
If we're being honest, you weren't created to be a "hero". You were created to be a biological weapon. A tool. Something to be used over and over and over again. No different than a gun or a tank, really.

And... do you even know what a Stand Alone Complex is?

[identity profile] so-pregnable.livejournal.com 2009-10-23 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
Except for the whole part where I'm a person.

Rob explained it to me once. It's like...when people copycat stuff. Sometimes when no one starts it.

In which case, bring it up with the supervillains, giving each other ideas, and they did start it.
imperious_lex: (Anti-Hero)

[personal profile] imperious_lex 2009-10-23 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
And you think you superheroes don't contribute to it?

All the drama, suspense, theatrics, and fame involved in the hero/villain fights. You think people don't want to be a part of that one way or another?

You should see the statistics for crimes involving costumed individuals in Gotham. It was non-existent before Batman, now it's a thirty-times a day regularity. Some want to be him, some want to be the guy who fights him.

Heroes breed villains breed heroes breed villains. It's all one big circle jerk. Blame one side all you want, but your life itself is proof of it.

No one would try to clone a superboy they could control if there was no uncontrollable, unaccountable, incredibly powerful superman running around, after all. Would they?

How many people have died just because the Joker specifically wanted to get Batman's attention? How many times have you heroes screwed up while trying to save the day and ended up creating your own nemesis? How many people have died trying to give themselves powers so they can be like you?

You assholes aren't the solution. Much like the villains out there, you're part of the problem.

[identity profile] so-pregnable.livejournal.com 2009-10-23 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Because megalomaniac nutcases that hurt innocent people while trying to hurt us don't contribute to the problem at all. Don't pretend you're not a part of it. You keep the wheels spinning in place just as much as everyone else.

And yeah, we screw up, yeah, we sometimes make things worse, but do you wanna go take my place in saving the world?

Since I'm part of the problem and all, how about I step back and let you handle the insane Kryptonian from another dimension that isn't even affected by our dimension's k-rock OR magic, and the equally insane anti-matter-powered Luthor that built a giant apocalypse machine out of the corpse of an extra-dimensional being. I'm totally unecessary and part of the problem, right? So I'll go chill out at the beach while you take care of it, since my getting involved makes it worse.

I'm sure you can handle that just fine on your own, dad.